I don't care if Bain is available in the first, second, third or fourth round. I don't want him. He is responsible for a car wreck that killed a woman. The only reason as to why he wasn't convicted of driving while drunk is, for some reason, no field sobriety test was ever performed. Does something like this sound remotely familiar to anyone? Does it conjure up the name of former Raiders WR Henry Ruggs? It certainly does to me.
Any team owner dumb enough to draft and pay this guy, based upon what he did, is going to pay through the nose if he does it again. That should be enough to scare most teams off.
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Apr 14, 2026 at 1:04 PM
- billbird2111
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Apr 14, 2026 at 1:29 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
"Let's talk about edge defenders, a position of need for the 49ers. Derrick Moore is a strong edge defender whose foundation is strength and power… He knows how to use his arm length to his advantage in both the run game and as a pass rusher."@gregcosell breaks down what he… pic.twitter.com/cjXF7VqZdU
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I feel like NFL teams are going to like Moore a lot more than draftniks. Power is king, especially when the games matter most. He feels like a Seahawk to me.
No doubt teams will be higher on Moore, Parker, Faulk etc and they'll probably have longer careers than a lot of the guys we gush over.
But they just dont do it for me.
When a player can win primarily with only a bull rush, I need to see special power to expect it translate to the NFL. Moore is a strong dude, but his strength isnt special. He doesnt have the get off, speed or bend to threaten high side, or the twitch to suddenly cross face. OTs will be able to sit on him, and I don't think hes that guy to consistently win in that way 1 on 1 against NFL players.
Now he's still gonna be valuable as a pocket pusher, as a edge setter, and of course rushing 1 on 1 is less and less common these days. But if im the niners, Im looking for edge production, not edge setters.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 14, 2026 at 1:30 PM ]
Apr 14, 2026 at 2:05 PM
- Heroism
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
No doubt teams will be higher on Moore, Parker, Faulk etc and they'll probably have longer careers than a lot of the guys we gush over.
But they just dont do it for me.
When a player can win primarily with only a bull rush, I need to see special power to expect it translate to the NFL. Moore is a strong dude, but his strength isnt special. He doesnt have the get off, speed or bend to threaten high side, or the twitch to suddenly cross face. OTs will be able to sit on him, and I don't think hes that guy to consistently win in that way 1 on 1 against NFL players.
Now he's still gonna be valuable as a pocket pusher, as a edge setter, and of course rushing 1 on 1 is less and less common these days. But if im the niners, Im looking for edge production, not edge setters.
Yeah, I don't think he'll be on the 49ers' radar as his skillset isn't really what's they're missing, nor does it really compliment what they already have.
But getting back to what I was alluding to in that post: I don't think draftniks put enough emphasis on how drastically the regular season is from the post seasons. The game in the trenches is basically played by different set of rules when the games matter most. There's A LOT more contact, holding and less flags in the playoffs. There are some notable pass rushers who don't have as much of an impact in the post season, and I don't think it's all due to game planning. A lot of guys struggle with the extra contact and mugging that they didn't have to deal with in the normal season.
You can't get to the post season without the regular season, so it makes sense to prioritize that. But I still think it's something to consider when evaluating a player. This is what really made me appreciate Arik Armstead. He was nice in the regular season, but when the rules got lax in the postseason, he became a f**king monster in the playoffs.
[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 14, 2026 at 2:09 PM ]
Apr 14, 2026 at 7:46 PM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here's how I have it:
Tier 1: Worth monitoring for a draft day slide, with potential for a small trade up.
1 Reuben Bain, Miami
Tier 2: Run the card up at 27
2 Malachi Lawrence
3 Akheem Mesidor
Tier 3: Trade down targets. This one is interesting, as I have Howell ranked higher, but id draft Bailey before him, especially at 27. Bailey has the higher potential to be a 3 down player, which id feel is super important for a 1st round pick, but I dont trust his ability to reach that potential, and if they're both DPRs, I like Howell more
4 Cashius Howell
5 David Bailey
Tier 4: Second round selection
6 R Mason Thomas
7 Jaishawn Barham
Tier 5: we some how picked up a 3rd
8 Joshua Josephs
Tier 6: 4th round and we still need a pass rusher
9 Gabe Jacas
10 Romello Height
As the draft gets closer hearing more buzz around Lawrence so starting to think he doesn't get to 27 and also hear people aren't as high on Bailey. You're f**king dialed in on this draft man. Kudos
Apr 15, 2026 at 5:31 AM
- ritz126
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here's how I have it:
Tier 1: Worth monitoring for a draft day slide, with potential for a small trade up.
1 Reuben Bain, Miami
Tier 2: Run the card up at 27
2 Malachi Lawrence
3 Akheem Mesidor
Tier 3: Trade down targets. This one is interesting, as I have Howell ranked higher, but id draft Bailey before him, especially at 27. Bailey has the higher potential to be a 3 down player, which id feel is super important for a 1st round pick, but I dont trust his ability to reach that potential, and if they're both DPRs, I like Howell more
4 Cashius Howell
5 David Bailey
Tier 4: Second round selection
6 R Mason Thomas
7 Jaishawn Barham
Tier 5: we some how picked up a 3rd
8 Joshua Josephs
Tier 6: 4th round and we still need a pass rusher
9 Gabe Jacas
10 Romello Height
As the draft gets closer hearing more buzz around Lawrence so starting to think he doesn't get to 27 and also hear people aren't as high on Bailey. You're f**king dialed in on this draft man. Kudos
ya seriously he is
and love that list i do disagree with Bailey though i feel he is the most complete pass rusher in the draft and is a for sure top 5 to top 10 pick .
Apr 15, 2026 at 7:56 AM
- Oilcan
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Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here's how I have it:
Tier 1: Worth monitoring for a draft day slide, with potential for a small trade up.
1 Reuben Bain, Miami
Tier 2: Run the card up at 27
2 Malachi Lawrence
3 Akheem Mesidor
Tier 3: Trade down targets. This one is interesting, as I have Howell ranked higher, but id draft Bailey before him, especially at 27. Bailey has the higher potential to be a 3 down player, which id feel is super important for a 1st round pick, but I dont trust his ability to reach that potential, and if they're both DPRs, I like Howell more
4 Cashius Howell
5 David Bailey
Tier 4: Second round selection
6 R Mason Thomas
7 Jaishawn Barham
Tier 5: we some how picked up a 3rd
8 Joshua Josephs
Tier 6: 4th round and we still need a pass rusher
9 Gabe Jacas
10 Romello Height
As the draft gets closer hearing more buzz around Lawrence so starting to think he doesn't get to 27 and also hear people aren't as high on Bailey. You're f**king dialed in on this draft man. Kudos
ya seriously he is
and love that list i do disagree with Bailey though i feel he is the most complete pass rusher in the draft and is a for sure top 5 to top 10 pick .
Gabe Jacas getting a lot of attention lately. Seeing him going mid second round in a lot of drafts.
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:29 AM
- adrianlesnar
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I like Bailey. I had him mocked to us early last year before he declined to enter the draft. 1st rounder for sure. Just dont see him as a top 10 guy.
I need to watch Keyron Crawford. Ledyard and Dane are both really high on him. I knew so quickly that I wasn't going to like Faulk, so I didn't watch enough Auburn for Crawford to catch my attention.
I need to watch Keyron Crawford. Ledyard and Dane are both really high on him. I knew so quickly that I wasn't going to like Faulk, so I didn't watch enough Auburn for Crawford to catch my attention.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 15, 2026 at 8:35 AM ]
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:31 AM
- adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're selling Lawrence more and more to me.
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 15, 2026 at 8:38 AM ]
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:43 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're selling Lawrence more and more to me.
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:50 AM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
I think I like Barham more than maybe I should. I just love how violent he plays the game
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:53 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're selling Lawrence more and more to me.
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
I actually haven't seen this yet. Thanks!
Yeah honestly I've warmed up more to him as the pick. Barham really caught my eye as a Morris type of player within his scheme.
Apr 15, 2026 at 8:53 AM
- Heroism
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
I think I like Barham more than maybe I should. I just love how violent he plays the game
It's hard not to like him. The guy plays the game the right way.
Saying that and I like him--I'm surprised by how many people have him ranked so highly as an edge rusher. The guy is sooo raw. He's quite a bit of a projection and has a long ways to go. The flashes are tantalizing, but I think he's risky for a team like the 49ers who is specifically looking for a guy to come in and get after the QB. This situation might not maximize his skillset if that's all they draft him to do.
[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 15, 2026 at 9:00 AM ]
Apr 15, 2026 at 9:03 AM
- Ezekiel38
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
26:45
You've probably already seen this, and its Ledyard again, but he gets into a lot of Zeke's concerns: late breakout, modest production, late draft riser, etc.
Bonus tidbit: he mentioned Jaishawn Barham really fits what Falcons did on defense last year......
I think I like Barham more than maybe I should. I just love how violent he plays the game
It's hard not to like him. The guy plays the game the right way.
Saying that and I like him--I'm surprised by how many people have him ranked so highly as an edge rusher. The guy is sooo raw. He's quite a bit of a projection and has a long ways to go. The flashes are tantalizing, but I think he's risky for a team like the 49ers who is specifically looking for a guy to come in and get after the QB.
I like Barham a lot - however, to me he is a guy I'll take with one of our 4ths if he happened to be there even if we already picked an EDGE with one of our first two picks. Same for Keyron Crawford - really like him but #58 way too rich for him and if he happened to fall to our 4th rounder I'd gladly take him as a developmental DPR. IF we have not picked an EDGE yet then I'd trade up to the early 4th for Crawford or Barham (in that order).
Imagine getting Lawrence/Jacas/Howell early and then being able to double up on EDGE with also strong talents in Crawford/Barham in the 4th round if one of them falls which is possible as they are more raw and more projection is needed. I'd be all about that and our EDGE talent and depth would become a strength of the team.
Apr 15, 2026 at 9:13 AM
- adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by Heroism:
It's hard not to like him. The guy plays the game the right way.
Saying that and I like him--I'm surprised by how many people have him ranked so highly as an edge rusher. The guy is sooo raw. He's quite a bit of a projection and has a long ways to go. The flashes are tantalizing, but I think he's risky for a team like the 49ers who is specifically looking for a guy to come in and get after the QB. This situation might not maximize his skillset if that's all they draft him to do.
I love Barham. Want him at 58. But it'd be a complete disservice to just put him on the line on scrimmage as a static position.
I want to take advantage his range, his awareness, and his violence.
Apr 15, 2026 at 9:22 AM
- ritz126
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I like Bailey. I had him mocked to us early last year before he declined to enter the draft. 1st rounder for sure. Just dont see him as a top 10 guy.
I need to watch Keyron Crawford. Ledyard and Dane are both really high on him. I knew so quickly that I wasn't going to like Faulk, so I didn't watch enough Auburn for Crawford to catch my attention.
Crawford is a fun watch i like him in your 2nd ro 3rd round tier
[ Edited by ritz126 on Apr 15, 2026 at 9:32 AM ]