OL 2026 draft class discussion

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Lol @ bisontis weiner chart

I feel like that chart should actually boost his stock. I suppose the balls could be bigger

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Lol @ bisontis weiner chart

lol right? I have no clue how to interpret it.

Originally posted by Drod1008:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Niners are making another offer to Williams in an effort to get that situation resolved prior to the draft. If he refuses it could change who they draft. I don't understand older players like Williams holding out for more money. He's already made more than he will ever be able to spend. If I were in his shoes I would sign a contract that was team friendly so they could sign players that might help them win a SB. I would think Williams would like a ring before he retires.

Do you think Williams will reject the offer and ask to be traded to KC? Could also ask to go home to Houston. With that defense+ Williams+ another WR, Texans would also be contenders. Don't think he would take a discounted deal. Signing bonus could be spread across 5 yrs. $36 million guaranteed is ok for 2 years. Hopefully they don't add any more years to the contract. Spread the bonus and make it work

No I do not. Teams have spent their real cash at this point. He's gonna be a Niner until he retires more than likely

If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

Colton's draft profile labeled him a "dirt dog" and plays with a chip on his shoulder. Puni isn't passive at all. I totally disagree with that stance. Trent is Trent.

we need a good young LG that has a f**k you attitude…but overall I wouldn't call the OL (minus Brendel) as being pussies or whatever.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

I don't think they need to necessarily add toughness as much as they need to add mass. Since the Niners OL is built to be lighter, smaller and more athletic, they win on angles and movement. I think the perception that they lack toughness stems from their inability to line up against guys, drive them straight back and finish them. They don't get pancake blocks or bury guys into the turf because that's not how they're built; in pass pro, they struggle to anchor against power. It looks even worse when they're going against light boxes and getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.

What they are lacking is mass; size; strength; power. The ability to move bodies at will. The OL would seem much tougher if they were bulldozing guys on short yardage situations or brute forcing holes open against a defense's will; stonewalling bullrushers; piledriving defenders into the grass rather than just getting in-between them; etc.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

Colton's draft profile labeled him a "dirt dog" and plays with a chip on his shoulder. Puni isn't passive at all. I totally disagree with that stance. Trent is Trent.

we need a good young LG that has a f**k you attitude…but overall I wouldn't call the OL (minus Brendel) as being pussies or whatever.

What I failed to mentioned was that I meant this as more mental toughness and attitude, so my fault on that part. I just know there's a whole lot of trash talk that goes on in the trenches and imo feel like the other players besides Trent don't handle that well especially if they're being beat multiple times. I feel like it probably gets in their head and just adds more fuel to the dlines especially the better ones, but like I said thats just my opinion so I could be completely wrong lol..

I would love it if we got a LG that has a f you attitude or heck any new drafted oline player with that. I don't see the Oline as pussies, but I don't see them as a unit that goes out and forces their will onto the dlines as well.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I don't think they need to necessarily add toughness as much as they need to add mass. Since the Niners OL is built to be lighter, smaller and more athletic, they win on angles and movement. I think the perception that they lack toughness stems from their inability to line up against guys, drive them straight back and finish them. They don't get pancake blocks or bury guys into the turf because that's not how they're built; in pass pro, they struggle to anchor against power. It looks even worse when they're going against light boxes and getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.

What they are lacking is mass; size; strength; power. The ability to move bodies at will. The OL would seem much tougher if they were bulldozing guys on short yardage situations or brute forcing holes open against a defense's will; stonewalling bullrushers; piledriving defenders into the grass rather than just getting in-between them; etc.

Like I mentioned in the above response, I meant this as more of a mental attitude and toughness. I agree with what you mentioned though about lacking size/strenght/power and they should add more.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

JC Davis?

Originally posted by Butter:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

JC Davis?

I haven't done much research on the Oline players this draft so I don't know much about him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Drod1008:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Niners are making another offer to Williams in an effort to get that situation resolved prior to the draft. If he refuses it could change who they draft. I don't understand older players like Williams holding out for more money. He's already made more than he will ever be able to spend. If I were in his shoes I would sign a contract that was team friendly so they could sign players that might help them win a SB. I would think Williams would like a ring before he retires.

Do you think Williams will reject the offer and ask to be traded to KC? Could also ask to go home to Houston. With that defense+ Williams+ another WR, Texans would also be contenders. Don't think he would take a discounted deal. Signing bonus could be spread across 5 yrs. $36 million guaranteed is ok for 2 years. Hopefully they don't add any more years to the contract. Spread the bonus and make it work

No I do not. Teams have spent their real cash at this point. He's gonna be a Niner until he retires more than likely

No way he'd go to Houston. Houston's problem isn't WR, its OL and QB. Stroud played like poop last year.

Hmmm, no one talking about Jaren Kump. Looks like this year's Joe Tippman to me..

Is Caleb Lomu to the Niners the worst kept secret around NFL circles or what? I'm seeing him mocked to SF everywhere now…

Originally posted by Heroism:
Is Caleb Lomu to the Niners the worst kept secret around NFL circles or what? I'm seeing him mocked to SF everywhere now…

historically we have kept our drafting really close to the vest i dont think the media has been right at all we dont really leak

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Sherm saying the same s**t many of us have been saying all offseason. Beating Seattle starts with the OL, and it requires bigger bodies. If you need to invest an early pick to get a big, athletic body, so be it. This is why I have no issue with taking a guard at 27. It starts with the OL, and it extends to the tight end and wide receiver blocking. If you don't fix those issues across the board, good luck winning the NFCW next season.

"You gotta get some attitude back on that offensive line," Sherman added. "I think that's where you gotta go. And I think that's what the San Francisco 49ers have focused on this offseason, just to whether it's depth guys, versatile guys. But I think they're going to continue that in the draft, and they're going to have to. And then you're going to have to get some defensive linemen.

"But to combat this Seahawks defensive line that understands that they have been able to control you, you haven't been able to move them. You haven't been able to move Byron Murphy, and Jarran Reed, and Leonard Williams. You haven't been able to move them, whether it's double-teamed or not. That means your guys aren't strong enough. That means your centers and guards aren't strong enough to move these men. They are taking on double teams and standing pat. And you've seen it consistently in those games. And if you can't move them with the double team, then you gotta get people in there that can."

"You can try to do it with scheme," Sherman said. "You can try to scheme around, like running around them. But they're fast, too. They're really fast. They're disciplined. They know what you're trying to do. So you're going to have to get body movers. You know, at the end of the day, you've got to get guys who can move people. And if you can't move them, then you're going to have the same problem next year. You know, unless you just want Brock Purdy to throw it 45 times and you think you're going to beat the secondary, you're going to beat the scheme that way, which could happen."

Bisontis or Rutledge would instantly bring attitude to that OL room. I can be talked into Bisontis at 27 no problem. Love Rutledge at 58.

Agreed. Rutledge a massive reach at #27 and passing on too many better players

i got to be honest i will disagree a lot with consensus here of the draft experts who obviously know way more than me but i dont think there is a better scheme fit for G than him in the draft and he is a finisher in the run game and has the athleticism to pull and get to second level

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
If they draft some Oline this year, I hope they get some players with some toughness and attitude. I feel like our whole oline besides Trent lacks that toughness and attitude when playing against tough dline players that will work you and talk crap at you. Trents like the only guy on our line that fights back lol... anywho thats just my opinion..

I don't think they need to necessarily add toughness as much as they need to add mass. Since the Niners OL is built to be lighter, smaller and more athletic, they win on angles and movement. I think the perception that they lack toughness stems from their inability to line up against guys, drive them straight back and finish them. They don't get pancake blocks or bury guys into the turf because that's not how they're built; in pass pro, they struggle to anchor against power. It looks even worse when they're going against light boxes and getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.

What they are lacking is mass; size; strength; power. The ability to move bodies at will. The OL would seem much tougher if they were bulldozing guys on short yardage situations or brute forcing holes open against a defense's will; stonewalling bullrushers; piledriving defenders into the grass rather than just getting in-between them; etc.

Using the rams as a point of reference, although Seahawks OL essentially mirrors the below as well ..,the mass difference boils down to LG

LT: Alaric Jackson: 6-foot-7, 312 lbs
LG: Steve Avila: 6-foot-3, 332 lbs
C Coleman Shelton (or Beaux Limmer): 6-foot-5, 292 lbs
RG: Kevin Dotson: 6-foot-4, 328 lbs
RT Warren McClendon Jr. (or Rob Havenstein): 6-foot-7, 312 lbs

LT: Trent Williams (6-5, 320 lbs):
.LG: Ben Bartch (6-6, 305 lbs):
C: Jake Brendel (6-4, 299
RG: Dominick Puni (6-5, 325 lbs):
RT: Colton McKivitz (6-6, 306 lbs):